November 2008 Satellite Finance article and interview with Philip Father, ProtoStar’s President and CEO
November, 2008 –The International Telecom Union’s delivery of a telegram to all
of its member nations indicating that the ProtoStar-1 satellite is
operating over Asia within all applicable rules and regulations
has either set a new precedent for how satellites must be
launched and coordinated, or is simply the most diplomatic
way of resolving a unique situation.
The operator ProtoStar’s neighbours were convinced that the
satellite could not be launched. To them, the higher priorities
of the orbital slot filings held by their respective sponsor
administrations meant that the responsibility to coordinate the
satellite fully was stacked on the shoulders of ProtoStar.
This month, ProtoStar hit back, claiming it had not received
the full cooperation of its neighbours in its attempts to
coordinate and that its neighbours were employing anticompetitive
measures to block a new entrant to the Asian
satellite market, despite the company’s repeated statements
that it planned to fully follow ITU guidelines on the issues of
signal interference.
Both parties have differing views of how ITU regulations are
to be interpreted. The ace in ProtoStar’s hand is that ProtoStar-
1 was launched in July, and now sits at its orbital slot at 98.5E
with much of its payload active.
In this context, with the ITU finding that ProtoStar-1 is not
significantly interfering with its neighbours beyond the norms
of satellite interaction, it would naturally have found it difficult
to justify demanding action against a satellite that provides
capacity to a hungry Indian market simply for the purposes of
hierarchy.
The issue facing the ITU is whether this case sets a
precedent that a satellite launch can take place without
coordination occurring to the satisfaction of all parties.
One senior figure at the regulatory office of a major global
satellite operators said that he believes that this is a unique
case that, if it sets any precedent, is likely to mean that this
situation will not arise again.
“The market will self-regulate, if I may run the risk of
defending a discredited ideology,” he said. “After observing
this situation, what kind of lender will not use this case as an
example to do even greater due diligence on orbital placement
than in the past? Furthermore, even beyond governments and
regulators, if the customer’s needs are threatened, the operator
will take whatever compromise steps are necessary to ensure
the safety of their business.”
On this particular case, the source said that ProtoStar’s immediate engagement of Intersputnik and Belarus as its
sponsor following its abandonment by Singapore in June
showed that the ITU retained its legitimacy. “They didn’t go
rogue, they wanted to stay within the national community,” he
said. “At this point, ProtoStar is operating within ITU rules and
their neighbours can’t show evidence of its satellite interfering
with their own, then they don’t have a case. If and when they
introduce new satellites to orbital slots that have greater priority
filing and interference occurs, then ProtoStar will have to take
steps to ensure the interference ends.”
ProtoStar looks beyond coordination quarrel
The satellite operator ProtoStar has been at the centre of a row with its
neighbours over the coordination of its first satellite, ProtoStar-1, which
was launched in July. The coordination issue is covered in depth along with
the most recent reaction of the International Telecoms Union to the subject
in the Asia operators section of this issue. In this Q&A, SatelliteFinance
reporter Ronan Murphy focuses on how the coordination issue has affected
ProtoStar’s business strategy, and how the company is proceeding with the
launch of its second satellite next year, as well as looking into its partnership
with the Philippines satellite operator Mabuhay.
Ronan Murphy: Would you be able
to shed any more light on how
ProtosStar-1 lost its orbital slot filing
with the Singapore administration?
Philip Father: What happened is that the
Singapore filing was due to expire on
June 27. From a factual standpoint we
were happily on track for our launch. We
ran into three or four successive delays
with the launch on the Ariane, obviously
not catastrophic delays, but a number of
minor ones that amount to a few weeks
here, a few days there.
That put us behind on the launch. We
went to the Radio Regulations Bureau
(RRB) in June prior to the launch and
submitted what was necessary for an
extension to the filing.
The types of decision to extend filings
are typically taken at the World Radio
Conference and the next one is in
2011. Out of the ITU and some of the
bureaucratic bodies, while everybody’s
well-intended, some of the methods just
aren’t as crisp or clear as one might like
– it can be interpreted different ways by
different people.
In this case I believe that the decision
provided the Infocomm Development
Authority of Singapore (IDA) with a lack of
clarity on its ability to move forward with
priority in that filing.
I think at all times we’ve seen the ITU
and the RRB act with the utmost integrity,
but through no fault of their own some of
the processes and procedures are a bit
cumbersome.
The IDA and Singapore in its own
wisdom and internal workings were
negotiating trade agreements, there were
bureaucrats back and forth negotiating
different things between the two countries and I believe that at the end of
the day, it became unclear to Singapore
as to whether it should move forward or
not given the uncertainty surrounding the
situation and their relationship with China.
ProtoStar chose the right business
path to move to a situation of greater
certainty, working with the Russians
and Intersputnik, whom we’ve had a
relationship with and felt clear on the
situation and how to move forward.
We came to the point where there was
indecision and uncertainty based on
a confluence of events, and ProtoStar
chose to remove that uncertainty by
going with an administration that had
clarity in its mind on how to move
forward. That doesn’t mean that anybody
else in the decision process was wrong,
it just means that there was a lack of
clarity.
“While we’re
disappointed in
the outcome in
Singapore, we’re
appreciative of
the relationship
we have with
Intersputnik".
How were you able to get a new
filing with Interputnik at such short
notice?
PF: Intersputnik had an attractive filing
for that slot with date priority 2005. In
addition, the filing covers all the spectrum
and frequency that the ProtoStar-1
satellite has.
In conjunction, we had an ongoing
relationship with Intersputnik. As
ProtoStar, we’ve worked with them
before on a few different initiatives.
Several of our folk have worked with
Intersputnik previously in their careers,
so while they’re wearing a different hat
now with ProtoStar, there’s still a longer
working relationship based on some of
our management team.
We think that they are a terrific
business partner, it’s a quality shop and
they’re very well run.
One of our anchor customers is
PlanetSky of Cyprus and they have
a very good working relationship
with Intersputnik, they use some of
their satellites and were helpful in
building up our relationship. While
we’re disappointed in the outcome in
Singapore, we’re appreciative of the
relationship we have with Intersputnik.
To what extent have these
coordination wrangles affected the
time period in which ProtoStar-1 has
gone into service?
PF: We’re actually live today and we
have customers on the satellite. The
satellite is healthy and we’re actively
servicing customers as we speak. We
are of course doing that in a methodical
way with Intersputnik and our sponsor
administration.
We’re bringing up our capacity like any
other satellite operator in crowded skies
and we’re trying to avoid interference as
much as possible.
The reality is that interference happens
amongst satellite operators a lot.
You don’t phase that out or minimise
until you’ve brought the satellite up and
you’ve been working on it. If somebody’s
out there crying wolf and saying “you’re
interfering with me,” the informed
audience knows that satellite operators
interfere with each other on a continual
basis.
We’re very thoughtful as to how we
power up our capacity and that is being
done within guidelines we’ve developed
with our sponsoring administration and
partner that are very consistent with ITU
rules, regulations and guidelines.
From a business plan perspective we
were hoping to go live in June or July.
Because of the delays of the Ariane
and the switch of administrations, we
basically lost one quarter. Is that hugely
consequential to a company that is in it
for the long haul? Three months? I don’t
think so, it’s a blip.
We are very happy with where we are
because we had a terrific launch – these
are the events that you worry about,
where it could have been catastrophic
for ProtoStar, if we had a failure or if the
satellite was proven to not be healthy.
The satellite industry is not something
like the software industry, no disrespect
to it. You can’t have an alpha, a beta, – you have one shot at the satellite. The
industry is big, lumpy, chunky, CAPEXintensive;
it’s not going to be a smooth
elegant process.
I think that’s why cooperation and
focusing on the customers is necessary,
that’s the glue that holds it together.
Is ProtoStar-1 capacity fully booked?
PF: Not yet. We like what we see on
the supply and demand balance. We’re
coming to the market at a good time.
I’d like to take credit for being able to
broadcast that, and it’s true, but I don’t
want to be arrogant about it, you do
need Lady Luck on your side.
The reason it’s not full is that we are
being methodical with respect to our
neighbours and the ITU process.
We want to minimise any interference
that we might create as we bring our
system online.
We had always targeted that we
would take a graceful period to bring
our satellite up to high utilisation rates,
but we are generating revenue, we are
healthy and we are working closely
with our customers, we have happy
customers.
I would hope that by the middle of
2009 we will have very high utilisation
rates and that will be consistent with a
methodical approach to bringing up our
capacity.
In terms of the type of capacity that
you’re still bringing up, is it with the
C-Band that you’re trying to be more
methodical? On the flipside of that,
is the Ku-band fully utilised?
PF: The Ku-band is in the process of
becoming fully utilised. You are correct
when you say it is the C-band we are
being more methodical on.
That is the area where we have to
look at power levels, polarisation and
proximity to other satellites. Where the
uplink and downlink antennas are, that
type of thing.
Our business model is not built around
C-band, it’s built around Ku-band
and Direct To Home, so we are more
comfortable with taking a methodical
approach to powering up the C-band.
A, because it’s the right thing to do, B,
because it’s the right thing to do! and
C, we’re not selling the C-band in bulk
because it’s not a DTH customer.
Our target market is not the cable
head-end provider, it’s more the GSM
cellular backhaul providers. In that
context, they’re unlikely to buy in bulk,
no more than one, two, three, four
transponders at one time.
So if we have 28-30 C-band
transponders we’re going to take longer
to build up high utilisation rates, in
comparison to Ku, where DTH operators
buy in blocks of 10-14 transponders at
once.
Regarding customers, can you
define exactly the nature of your
relationship with the Indian DTH
provider DishTV?
PF: At the highest level, Agrani
and Dish TV is synonymous with Zee
Broadcasting, it’s a well run media
conglomerate that’s the largest DTH
provider in India. In the broadest context,
Agrani/Dish TV was our first anchor
customer on the satellite and as such
has heritage as our premier anchor
customer. We’re very happy with that
relationship and fortunate to have them
as a partner. With anchor customers, you
give them special relationships.
Part of how Agrani/Dish TV works
with us is related to any relations they
have with ISRO, and it’s inappropriate
for me to comment on that particular
relationship. I can tell you that Agrani
and Dish do not currently own shares in
ProtoStar.
Can you summarise the attraction of
India as a market for your business
model?
PF: From a media perspective, India
is tremendously effective. There are
currently eight licensed or licence
pending DTH operators in the country,
the most competitive DTH market in the
world by a long shot. The forecast is 50
million subscribers over time.
I’ve seen break-even estimates on a
per operator basis go up over the last
two years, but if that 50 million figure
is true, which seems rational given the
number of middle income houses in India
and that ARPU is only US$5 per month
per subscriber, you’re still looking at a
market that could healthily support 4 to 5
DTH operators over time.
I see some pretty interesting faces in
that market that are well capitalised. It’s
an attractive business to be in and there
are synergies for those operators based
on their respective positions.
We believe we’re bringing in very
attractive capacity to relieve the
bottleneck over India. This brings us full
circle back to coordination. We hope
that as we do the right thing over the
coordination process, the other satellite
operators will do the right thing based
on ITU guidelines and principles, and
that our capacity will be allowed to move
forward in the Indian market where
there’s quite a bit of need for it.
Did you sell capacity at a lower
price than the market norm on
ProtoStar-1 in order to get it out to the customers?
PF: If you’re going to ask someone to
commit as an anchor customer 24/25
months prior to launch then its like an
office building – you’re going to get a
better rate if you commit to leasing space
before it has been built.
What is the current status of
ProtoStar-2?
PF: We’re looking for a late Q1 09
launch. We’re very pleased that the
Proton has been able to take off for a
few back-to-back launches and we’re
very confident in the manifest that we
have. Right now we’re just in the process
of clearing some important dates at
Boeing on the manufacturing side and
our program is holding together. It’s
another program where we have a terrific
anchoring customer in Indivision.
What is the situation with ProtoStar-
2’s orbital slot? Do you have one
lined up, and will you be using
Intersputnik and Belarus as your
sponsor administration for this
satellite?
PF: Right now, we have a couple of
alternatives and we’re still in the process
of managing that opportunity. Right
now, consistent with our original plan,
we’re working with Indivision and the
Indonesian government as our baseline.
I need to stay quiet on the opportunities
we have available to us, but we are
fortunate enough to have a couple of
choices that meet Indivision’s criteria and
our criteria.
And do you foresee the kind of
coordination issues that have been
raised with ProtoStar-1 appearing
again with ProtoStar-2?
PF: If I go down the checklist on
what created this unique situation on
ProtoStar-1, one was that we had a
filing that was expiring, which wasn’t the
case last year. We also don’t see the
Singapore-China mix, so I don’t see it as
a similar situation at all.
“It’s much easier
for financiers
to understand
something that’s in
their back yard".
Will you be looking at similar lease
rates as on PS-1 or will you be
raising them in any way?
PF: I think they’ll be based on market
dynamics. We have some similar
geographic coverage but we’re covering
different target markets. With PS-2 we
can put some Ku-band capacity into
the Philippines and Taiwan. The other
important thing to note is that PS-2 is all
DTH, there’s no C-band at all. I would
expect on an average per transponder
basis you’re going to see higher lease
rates than PS-1 because Ku-band
commands higher lease rates.
We’re happy with where we are;
we’re seeing good lease rates but not
astronomical ones. We want to help our
customers get their business started
and maybe, once the DTH operators get
more healthy, break even and become
profitable, there will be an opportunity to
raise the lease rates, because they will
have the ability to pay.
You managed to raise US$245m in
debt financing for ProtoStar-2 earlier
this year. How difficult was it to do
with the credit markets in the state
they were in then, and would it be
possible to do such a deal now?
PF: No, it’s not possible to do today.
The credit markets have effectively shut
down. From what I hear talking to the
bankers, I don’t think you’re going to
see any movement whatsoever until
the second quarter of 09. I’m not even
saying deals will get done in Q2 09, I
mean maybe the bankers will entertain a
call or a roadshow. People are going to
be focused on getting the liquidity back
in their portfolio.
That doesn’t mean that there aren’t
corporate finance opportunities. A
strategic partner who has access to
capital and wants to put it to use in
a complimentary way; that could be
available to a satellite operator. There’s
access to money, but not from the
traditional capital markets.
How did we pull together the financing
in March? It was a lot of hard work, and
we had some good bankers involved
with the Credit Suisse guys. Again, it’s
a question of cooperation, and working
through issues, structuring challenges,
understanding the other guy’s needs and
wants as well as your own.
It’s being creative and flexible in a
dynamic environment and creating a
trust equation and working with credible
people that allowed us to pull that
together.
I also think it’s a testament to our
business model. ProtoStar’s not doing
anything exotic.
We’re pretty open-book. We’re trying
to develop customer orders for satellites
doing what satellites do best, point-topoint
television.
One difference with the PS-2 financing was that a good percentage came from
Asian sources.
It’s much easier for financiers to
understand something that’s in their back
yard. People don’t struggle with this type
of business model as they do with some
others.
What is the status of ProtoStar’s
debt?
PF: Our leverage is within the typical
debt to equity parameters that the market
would finance.
I’d like to keep the numbers
confidential, but we’ve got a healthy
dose of equity in the company and that’s
what the debt guys looked to when they
financed us earlier this year. It was solid
enough for them to pull the trigger back
in March, and we have equity players
that are strong and committed to the
business.
If you’re asking if the debt crisis has
introduced any risk to us because we’re
over-levered, then the answer is no.
Given your comments on the credit
markets, can we assume that
ProtoStar is not looking for any
financing on a major scale in the
near future?
PF: That is true in the following
context, that we are now focused on
implementation rather than project
financing.
We’re always looking for new
opportunities; we’ve got a couple in the
funnel that we’re looking at. We may be
able to finance these through strategic
sources or we may structure so that
we postpone certain programs and use
our balance sheet more, or I can cite
the recent Mabuhay-PLDT transaction
that we consummated. There’s the
ability to build your satellite fleet through
cooperation.
Can we take as read then, that
ProtoStar has no plans to launch a
brand new satellite in the next two
years? Is the Agila 2 satellite that
ProtoStar now holds transponders
on a means of offering capacity in
a time where credit is hard to come
by and this kind of partnership is the
best way to gain access to an extra
satellite without going through a full
procurement procedure?
PF: I think that building an entire new
satellite and getting an anchor customer
is very expensive, particularly in light
of how high current launch prices are.
It becomes harder to provide capacity
to India at affordable rates. The rates
we would have to charge under the
conventional business model for a third
satellite would not be affordable for Asia,
so you have to look at creative sources
like Mabuhay/PLDT.
"A business acquisition or a merger can
be a more effective use of capital".
Are any of the partnership
possibilities you have lined up similar
to the Mabuhay/PLDT deal?
PF: It depends on the partner. We do
have opportunities, but what’s equally
important to us is implementation. We
have to take a balanced approach to
growth versus implementation. We need
to not overcompensate on one to the
detriment of the other and we don’t want
to get ahead of ourselves.
"A business
acquisition or
merger can be a
more effective
use of capital"
So far, ProtoStar has used
creative strategies such as buying
refurbished satellites or making
partnerships in order to get its fleet
in the air. At what stage can you
see yourselves having the desire or
the capability to buy and launch a
satellite from scratch?
PF: If you look at us, luck and
implementation willing, we’re going to be
three satellites strong by the middle of
next year. We will have control of three
operational satellites within the space of
ten months, and I think that is enough to
be focusing on for the moment.
What kind of revenue and EBIT
is ProtoStar hoping to take in this
year?
PF: When you look at ProtoStar, we’re
still bringing up capacity and not really
looking at things on a quarterly basis at
this point in time, but we are expecting
healthy revenue.
Given the current transitory state
of the business, would it be more
advisable to ask what projections
ProtoStar has for next year,
when PS-1 has had a full year of
operations?
PF: We have projections, but we’re in
the middle of redoing them as we speak
in order to reflect the synergies and
benefits of the Mabuhay situation so it’s
not a guess I’d like to make at this point
in time. I’ll have a clearer picture by the
end of the year.